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Marvel's "villain problem" usually boils down to screen time. It's not enough to just show someone doing a couple of bad things, the audience needs a chance to connect with a villain and, if possible, even empathize with them a little bit. And typically, Marvel is so focused on telling a hero's story, or setting up the hero's origin, that they don't let us get to know the bad guy well enough.

I think the reason Loki is usually people go to for the "best MCU villain" spot is because in the first Thor, while they were working on telling Thor's "origin" story, Loki was able to be right by his side through most of it. He was not an out-and-out villain from the start, he was Thor's brother, and so he could share the screen enough that we got to see his jealousy, and the moment when that jealousy was tipped over into rage. We could not only see why Loki would turn bad, but we could also sympathize with him.

I actually maintain that the best MCU villain thus far has been Wilson Fisk for that very reason. We got a chance to know him over the course of a dozen episodes (I even found myself rooting for him at times), an unusually in-depth look at a bad guy and his motivations for the MCU. I had no doubts that the Kingpin believed, wholeheartedly, that he was the hero of the story.

Still, a villain does need to be a believable threat as well. I think Darren Cross supplied a legitimate threat to the safety of the world in that he wanted to mass distribute a weapon such as the Pym Particle (or whatever his knockoff was called) to a terrorist organization. He had a fairly believable reason to feel slighted, and coupled with the mentioned chemically-induced effects on his brain, I thought he was an adequate antagonist for the story he was in. At no point will I forget that Darren Cross was the bad guy in Ant-Man, whereas there were times I could not for the life of me remember Malaketh's name.
 
Hmmmmm my take....
Iron Monger - Excellent, Stain was very menacing and the final battle was decent with a lot of action
Loki - The best MCU Villain so far, truly the god of mischief and very well played by TH
Whiplash - Vanko was really good, and cunning but the Whiplash final fight was short and the messed up with that
Red Skull - Almost as good as Loki for me, seemed to be a decent challenge for Cap in a fight but his support was crap
Chitauri - Avenger Cannon fodder but I liked how they looked, essentially the droids from EP1 :lol
Malaketh - Underused, underwhelming, bland, underdeveloped character with almost no presence at all
Winter Soldier - Great Villain, decent backstory, good tie in and a great challenge for the hero, physically and emotionally
Ultron- Menacing at times, but overall poor, he wasnt powerful enough and didnt use any real strategy
Yellow Jacket - Well played out Villain imo, very intimidating and troublesome and Cross was developed and played well

Just IMO

Loki said some things, but the way he is written, is a meh. He done basically nothing in avengers, and the way he was beaten said it all, good character sucked has a villain. Confused Mathews brings some very valid points on why loki sucks has a villain

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Ultron the polar opposite, unlike Loki, Ultron was a actual threat and his 2 point plan if it did come off no one would have stopped him. jarvis was the last line of defense, without him Ultron gets the codes and he nukes earth, without needing to raise a huge chunk of an island to slam it in bedrock. He gets the codes, transfers his essence into the vision body, the avengers are beaten. Hell Ultron beats the crap out of Thor, loki could not even do that. And while it was disappointing the way he was beaten, overall Ultron has been MCU strongest villain, and he has cast a huge shadow over Tony Stark.

So I say the aftermath of what Ultron has done, and the consequences have been more damaging and left a legacy. That for me is a good villain, how it has changed people and it has defiantly changed the avengers. HULK is gone into exil, Tony has divided everyone, captain america and some of the team are more cynical towards tony, and its been more regrouping for the team. Not many villains have done that, which Ultron has done. Antman bring up what Tony has done, so fresh scars are still healing, and tony will take a very interesting journey trying to repair the burnt bridges on what he done creating Ultron
 
All great movies have great villains...Marvel are dropping the ball here big time.
All there movies ........Iron Monger was good
Loki is excellent.
Red skull was poor.
Whiplash was under used.
The Chatari were poor.
The guy from Thor TDW was crap.
Winter Soldier was excellent .
Ultron was poor which was very disappointing.
Yellow Jacket was good.
Marvel need to get some bad ass villans and not kill them all off.

I'd agree with this. You missed ronan and killian, not that you missed much though
 
Villains are probably one of the major issues with the MCU. They just suck.

This.

Loki is a bit meh to me. I think the problem of the MCU are the cartoony villains. If they don't get Thanos right it will be a problem... it's already bad that Feige said the movies won't get any darker because I want really wanted to see a darker and more evil villain in the MCU
 
Marvel's "villain problem" usually boils down to screen time. It's not enough to just show someone doing a couple of bad things, the audience needs a chance to connect with a villain and, if possible, even empathize with them a little bit. And typically, Marvel is so focused on telling a hero's story, or setting up the hero's origin, that they don't let us get to know the bad guy well enough.

I think the reason Loki is usually people go to for the "best MCU villain" spot is because in the first Thor, while they were working on telling Thor's "origin" story, Loki was able to be right by his side through most of it. He was not an out-and-out villain from the start, he was Thor's brother, and so he could share the screen enough that we got to see his jealousy, and the moment when that jealousy was tipped over into rage. We could not only see why Loki would turn bad, but we could also sympathize with him.

I actually maintain that the best MCU villain thus far has been Wilson Fisk for that very reason. We got a chance to know him over the course of a dozen episodes (I even found myself rooting for him at times), an unusually in-depth look at a bad guy and his motivations for the MCU. I had no doubts that the Kingpin believed, wholeheartedly, that he was the hero of the story.

Still, a villain does need to be a believable threat as well. I think Darren Cross supplied a legitimate threat to the safety of the world in that he wanted to mass distribute a weapon such as the Pym Particle (or whatever his knockoff was called) to a terrorist organization. He had a fairly believable reason to feel slighted, and coupled with the mentioned chemically-induced effects on his brain, I thought he was an adequate antagonist for the story he was in. At no point will I forget that Darren Cross was the bad guy in Ant-Man, whereas there were times I could not for the life of me remember Malaketh's name.

I couldn't have said this better myself. As soon as I finished Daredevil, I was all like, holy ****, Wilson Fisk is the best villain in the MCU. My god, his Samaritan speech was absolutely amazing. It was perfect.
 
This.

Loki is a bit meh to me. I think the problem of the MCU are the cartoony villains. If they don't get Thanos right it will be a problem... it's already bad that Feige said the movies won't get any darker because I want really wanted to see a darker and more evil villain in the MCU

Winter soldier, Ultron, yellow jacket and Stane are probably the darkest we have got from from MCU villains. I think those 4 have been very good, red skull could have, we just did not get enough
 
The thing about Yellowjacket is that I knew exactly what kind of baddie we were gonna get just judging on how they were advertising and changing the character from interviews. Of course he isn't gonna be like Loki or Ultron, or Bucky. He wasn't gonna be amazing and I was fine with that. Though I gotta admit he did seem more fierce than say, Whiplash and even Ronan at times. Corey Stoll's performance was fine for what he did though and wasn't bad at selling a dude who could snap at any time. Haha to be honest, when the bug zapper woke him up, that scream he made kinda got to me. And the way he was all like "Do I look like a monster?" That creeped me out too. Just the tone and delivery of his lines were pretty good. Just a shame we didn't get more development from him.

I thought he was fine for a first Scott Lang Ant-Man movie. That's honestly kinda the shame of not giving Ultron to Hank. If they made Ultron Hank's creation and still used his brainwaves, Ultron would have been honestly the most terrifying MCU villain we could have ever seen due to Hank already being so ****ed up but what we got was still good.
 
The other problem for the mcu and villains?
At least two of the best have been blocked from them.
Magneto and Dr Doom.
 
The thing about Yellowjacket is that I knew exactly what kind of baddie we were gonna get just judging on how they were advertising and changing the character from interviews. Of course he isn't gonna be like Loki or Ultron, or Bucky. He wasn't gonna be amazing and I was fine with that. Though I gotta admit he did seem more fierce than say, Whiplash and even Ronan at times. Corey Stoll's performance was fine for what he did though and wasn't bad at selling a dude who could snap at any time. Haha to be honest, when the bug zapper woke him up, that scream he made kinda got to me. And the way he was all like "Do I look like a monster?" That creeped me out too. Just the tone and delivery of his lines were pretty good. Just a shame we didn't get more development from him.

I thought he was fine for a first Scott Lang Ant-Man movie. That's honestly kinda the shame of not giving Ultron to Hank. If they made Ultron Hank's creation and still used his brainwaves, Ultron would have been honestly the most terrifying MCU villain we could have ever seen due to Hank already being so ****ed up but what we got was still good.

He reminded me of Tony's first nemesis Stane, which is why I did like antman allot.
 
What I would give to see Victor in the MCU...I'd probably have a heart attack when I see him...just like the first time I ever see Carol Danvers in the MCU. XD

I will feel that way when we eventually (hopefully) get a proper Venom and not the abomination from Spider-Man 3.
 
I will feel that way when we eventually (hopefully) get a proper Venom and not the abomination from Spider-Man 3.

It will be interesting after infinity wars part 2, is that the end for the MCU. Especially movies after spiderman is released in 2017, if Thanos is the end game after IW part 1 and 2, will there be more spiderman. Will be keeping an eye out what villain we will get for spiderman, so can add that to my MCU HT villain collection

It will be nice to know a release date for yellow jacket so I can look to when to add him next year, since he is on my 2016 list
 
At face value, I thought Yellowjacket was decent. Not the best, but definitely not forgettable either. He had a really cool costume, heck one of the best in the MCU so far, and a memorably fierce personality (like really bat-sh!+ insane fierce).

On a meta-textual level though, I thought it was quite amusing that Hank hates him for seeing too much of "himself" in him. The weird part was, his overall role felt like he was a cross between Yellowjacket-Hank and Ultron. :lol

Personally, I think the best MCU villains by far are (in no particular order) Fisk, Loki, Bucky and Ultron. Admittedly I do feel like Ultron's role is being greatly underestimated by a lot of folks especially given how his very inception as well as the results of his actions fair against other MCU villains. AOU will essentially stand as the most Avengers-like film that the main Avengers will ever get, and it's only after we get more films down the line will people look back on it and see just that.
 
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