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[King Darkness]

All you need to know about PT fights in a second

 

[eczamurai]

I've trained in martial arts and fought in the ring. I recently began fencing and noticed an immediate, chilling difference. You can get hurt in hand-to-hand combat very quickly, but unless you're hopelessly outmatched in some way, you have a little more time.

Put a sword into the equation...even a simple fencing foil, never mind a freaking LIGHTSABER...and you see that with just one error you will die, in under a second.

Exactly. I work in the kitchen and let me tell you those knives are SHARP, you can just stroke the blade gently and you WILL cut yourself. Let alone someone using force to sever an arm or head. And omfg that moment in ROTS made me cringe even when I saw it the first time in cinemas. What are they doing? They're risking themselves more than the other lol.

 

[IrishJedi]

All you need to know about PT fights in a second

 

[DiFabio]

My favorite lightsaber fight out of all the films is probably on Bespin between Darth and Luke. I love how Vader is just toying with him, plus I had anticipating Luke vs. Vader ever since I saw the first one. Second would probably be on the Death Star between Luke and Darth. That one has the most emotional investment in my opinion, especially when the chorus kicks in when Luke goes nuts on Vader.

Third is definitely the ones in the Phantom Menace. I don't like the Prequels at all for the most part, but there is no denying those Qui-Gon/Maul, Qui-Gon/Obi-Wan/Maul, and Obi-Wan/Maul fights are extremely well done and exciting. The music, the choreography, the environments, it's great. From Qui-Gon getting tired out because he's middle aged, to the suspense of the two getting separated in the generator room to Obi-Wan going nuts on Maul, it's all satisfying and well done.

There's nothing wrong with Darth vs. Ben in the first one, I don't mind the slowness to the fight and I've always dug Ben's sacrifice and little smile before he's struck down.



All the other fights suck. The best one should have been Anakin vs. Obi-Wan in ROTS but it's one of the worst.

 

[earthdog]

The ANH duel is a conversation between old friends turned enemies, punctuated by swords. It's like when someone smokes a pipe and gestures and indicates with it while they speak.

Anyway, Ben was stalling and buying time for everyone else to get back to the Falcon, not actually fighting for his life or trying to kill Vader.

 

[Too Much Garlic]

All you need to know about PT fights in a second

That's what you'll expect to see in a martial arts show-off show, not in an actual battle to the death. Then all those flashy moves goes out of the window and you go for the opening, while trying to make sure you don't open yourself up for the enemy blade or you're done for.

 

[IrishJedi]

What do you expect in a movie where just moments earlier one of the characters utters this:

"Only a Sith deals in absolutes." (Said Obi-Wan... absolutely)



And the movie before: "I wish I could just wish... (away my feelings)."

Seriously some of the dumbest **** ever.

 

[Mad Old Lu]

What do you expect in a movie where just moments earlier one of the characters utters this:

"Only a Sith deals in absolutes." (Said Obi-Wan... absolutely)



And the movie before: "I wish I could just wish... (away my feelings)."

Seriously some of the dumbest **** ever.

Yeah, I'll take swirly lightsabers over that horrendous dialogue any time!

 

[SithThundercracker]

Back to the old prequel bashing!
I'm on the ANH-duel-is-boring side. And I much prefer the final duel between Luke&Vader rather than ESB's. Probably my favourite would have been TPM's, but the ultracrappy ending ruins everything.

 

[lerath666]

All you need to know about PT fights in a second

Back to the old prequel bashing!
I'm on the ANH-duel-is-boring side. And I much prefer the final duel between Luke&Vader rather than ESB's. Probably my favourite would have been TPM's, but the ultracrappy ending ruins everything.

Well.. some of them.

Qui gon, obi-wan, and maul from phantom menace was pretty good.

As for the ANH fight, Lucas himself, as well as several others have equated that fight to being a battle between two ANCIENT masters of the sword. Two men who are elderly, but have spent their lives dedicated to their craft ( swordfighting) men who forgo flair and style over accuracy, and finishing off your opponent directly and efficiently.

There are records and/or stories of Samurai dueling wherein they circle each other for hours, never swinging, never attacking, waiting for the other to make ONE mistake, A wrong move, dipping the blade too low or too high, looking away at the right moment etc, and then finish their opponent in a swift, SINGLE move.

Hell, EVEN MOST kendo matches are ended in a manner that would result in mutual death for both participants, if the swords were real instead of wood.

Artistically, Philosophically, and visually, the FIRST fight of EACH trilogy sets a tone and a pace for all that follow. And IMO BOTH are the best fights from their respective trilogies.

 

[lerath666]

As a followup, I remember it being said that the idea was in the Pt to see jedi in their heyday, so they wanted fights with more energy.

i think that somewhere a decision was made to try to "out awesome" the previous fight with each new one. I think that was a mistake. if they had all felt like the duel of the fates fight in PM, it would have been better.


As an addendum, I rather enjoyed the sidious/yoda fight.

as an additional addendum, try watching any PT fight with benny hill music. it's great.

 

[SithThundercracker]

as an additional addendum, try watching any PT fight with benny hill music. it's great.

Fastforwarded or at normal speed (the movie, I mean)?

 

[VintijDroidGutzz]

Well.. some of them.

Qui gon, obi-wan, and maul from phantom menace was pretty good.

As for the ANH fight, Lucas himself, as well as several others have equated that fight to being a battle between two ANCIENT masters of the sword. Two men who are elderly, but have spent their lives dedicated to their craft ( swordfighting) men who forgo flair and style over accuracy, and finishing off your opponent directly and efficiently.

There are records and/or stories of Samurai dueling wherein they circle each other for hours, never swinging, never attacking, waiting for the other to make ONE mistake, A wrong move, dipping the blade too low or too high, looking away at the right moment etc, and then finish their opponent in a swift, SINGLE move.

Hell, EVEN MOST kendo matches are ended in a manner that would result in mutual death for both participants, if the swords were real instead of wood.

Artistically, Philosophically, and visually, the FIRST fight of EACH trilogy sets a tone and a pace for all that follow. And IMO BOTH are the best fights from their respective trilogies.

Good post mate, well said.

 

[eczamurai]

Why can I only rep myself? =_=

 

[YankeesFanboy]

And she'll be looking at this.

Not nearly as ugly as this.

 

[VintijDroidGutzz]

Just imagine those two having a conversation - untapped gold right there.

 

[YankeesFanboy]

 

[VintijDroidGutzz]

She throws some dystopian concept at him - then the ugly jokes start.

 

[lerath666]

Fastforwarded or at normal speed (the movie, I mean)?

normal speed. Lucasfilm sped them up enough already.

 

[eczamurai]

Back to the old prequel bashing!
I'm on the ANH-duel-is-boring side. And I much prefer the final duel between Luke&Vader rather than ESB's. Probably my favourite would have been TPM's, but the ultracrappy ending ruins everything.

There wouldn't have been an issue if there wasn't so much to bash!

The ANH Duel makes sense to me in the way that the ROTS dual with the emperor and Yoda didn't. Old people shouldn't fight like 18 year old karate masters giving Bruce Lee a run for his money. Imagine the Gandalf/Balrog scene reimagined by George Lucas? Gandalf would roundhouse kick it or some crazy ****.